The Diverging Path: When Your Spouse Isn’t Ready to Leave the Empire

We all choose our paths based upon our own experiences. When we come to fork in the road our experience is how we decide on which path to take.  But there is more to it than just experience.  The “timing”  of the decision has to be right

I am a big believer in “Right Place, Right Time.” When Padme and I met, we were both ready for a serious relationship.  It doesn’t matter if you meet the perfect person if you are not both looking for the same thing. I’d had relationships before where the timing was off—either I wasn’t ready or they weren’t. 

But right now, as I look toward the exit door of my career, I’m realizing our timing is out of sync.

For Padme, she currently cannot see a path where she doesn’t work. It isn’t a financial issue; it’s an inner drive. To her, retiring in your early 50s just isn’t “what you do.” She is apprehensive about me retiring early, and I get it. I’ve found myself focused on one path, while she is firmly on another.

I think it comes back to our experiences or “scars.”

My desire to retire is tied to a broken career path. In 30 years, I’ve had fourteen jobs at thirteen companies. In Padme’s 25 years, she’s had four jobs at two companies—and she’s been at her current company for 21 years. Our careers are polar opposites.

 How could we look at retirement the same way?

For Vader, there is no trust. I’ve been trained that I’m at a company for a good time, not a long time. I am brought in to build or change a department. I have “itchy feet” by design. This lack of mutual love from the “Empire” has made me want off this twisty path. Every company is not that different from the last one. I’m tired of the same issues and  the same politics. Once I have “Enough,” I’m ready to hang up the cape. 

I know I can’t be fulfilled by the work I have been doing for 30 years. I don’t hate it, I am just done with it. My experience is showing me it’s time to take a different path.

Padme has the opposite view. She is passionate about her company. She has worked with these people for two decades; she likes her team. They are almost family in her eyes. But over time, her work-life balance has shifted from a healthy 50/50 split to something closer to 80/20. And not the good kind of 80.

Work occupies her first thoughts every day, all day. She couldn’t be a senior executive if it didn’t. But I’ve seen her pushed to “the edge” by the workload. She recovers, but once you’ve gone over that edge, the trauma is never far away when the schedule gets crazy again. Since Covid it has not let up for her.

This “Busyness” is a drug. When you’re in the flow—moving, shaking, being the “key cog” who gets shit done—it feels good. But busyness is like the proverbial frog in a pot. The adrenaline builds slowly until you’re boiling. You don’t notice it. If you jump out of the pot, you go from a hot tub to a snowbank. It’s a shock. You miss the rush.

I know, because I was her. Early in my career, I was the one working non-stop. Eventually, politics ended that job, which forced me out of the boiling pot. It took me years to change my perspective, and if I’m honest, I still miss the rush sometimes. It is a powerful drug.

I just expected that Padme would be running toward the retirement finish line with me. I’m realizing now that she doesn’t have an exit plan. I’ve been chasing this for 13 years; I follow the FIRE community and have been preparing mentally. She hasn’t had the space to imagine a life without the busyness. 

To be fair I am also 5 years older which is a long time in a working career. She will get more focussed on retiring when she gets to my age. 

But I also see the cracks showing from her work stress. I feel like I haven’t done enough to help her look ahead, and me leaving work just adds another stressor—not about money, but about whether I’ll be fulfilled. I can be a little moody and she suspects not working may make it worse.

I need to do a better job. I’ve planted seeds about “exit doors”—maybe slow traveling when our youngest hits college in three years—but looking that far ahead is hard for her. Her experience is ingrained.

And our experiences are how we make decisions.  My experiences make it easy, hers makes it hard 

I guess my new mission is to retire well and be a good example of what the “other side” looks like. I need to make her life easier while she figures it out on her own timeline. If spouses are misaligned going into this chapter, it goes poorly. Retirement can’t be a unilateral decision.

More work to do on this one.

6 responses to “The Diverging Path: When Your Spouse Isn’t Ready to Leave the Empire”

  1. fiforthepeople Avatar
    fiforthepeople

    My wife also continues to work, voluntarily. But for my getting into FIRE years ago and since obsessing about it, she’d not only not know about FIRE, but never would have even considered retiring early. However, dynamics have slowly but surely been shifting. She’s become more unhappy with some work stuff, and, also, has gotten to see me giddily FIREd for four years now and I think is increasingly attracted to freedoms that being FIREd affords. Maybe she’ll FIRE, or at least take a miniretirement, soon; it’s at the conversation stage, which it previously was nowhere near. Which gets to your point about right place, right time. Sounds like it’s maybe not the right time for your wife. But in time (at a time that cannot be predicted), it may magically be. In the interim, you can do you, have the benefit of one person bringing in a full-time job paycheck, and hope that your wife decides to FIRE sooner than later while leaving the decision solely in her hands.

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    1. VaderonFire Avatar

      I don’t think a person can really know how they will handle being retired until they are. Some will love it, some will not. I am hoping I am in the first camp like you

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  2. Tech Avatar
    Tech

    I was ready to FIRE two years ago and the wife was not on the same page. Things have changed and now we are both burned out and are looking forward to retiring this year together. The extra two years of working added to our financial benefit, but those two years being younger are gone forever.

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    1. VaderonFire Avatar

      Congratulations on your soon to be retirement. Their is never an easy answer on when to go.

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  3. Pauline Avatar
    Pauline

    You state that you will also make her life easier when you are retired. I assume that also means doing more of the household and family duties and yes, that will make her life easier and may create a new balance, a new way of doing life together, that is great for both of you. I’m hoping that for you two.

    I think your type of work career can indeed make you very cynical about “corporate America”. There still exist other types of “work” (paid/unpaid) as well, so maybe at some point you find yourself doing some of that. But you don’t have to.

    For me it’s funny, in my case I have been promoting FIRE to my guy since I met him 15 years ago, and now he’s the one who has reached the finish line first. (We’re keeping separate finances more or less). I’m not far behind, just two more years for me. But he’s been retired since Dec 20 (at age 53) and is finding his way in this new stage of life. I’m a few years younger than he is and will then probably retire at age 49 or so.

    So I’ll be following along and see how you guys are doing.

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    1. VaderonFire Avatar

      My wife and I are 5 years a part in age. I often step back to see what she is going through a work and sometimes its scary to see the she is in. By that I mean it feels like I went through similar thinking as she is about work – about 5 years ago. That somehow there is a natural cycle to get to retirement.

      I naturally come across as cynical. It is how I am wired and would like to improve on it. In the end I am grateful for the opportunities I have had. My only goal in the last several years is to work with people I like regardless of the work. I have found it is more about the people then the name above the door. At my last Death Star I built the team from scratch so it made it possible as I knew most of the people previously.

      And I will be definitely be doing the heavy lifting around the house. Chef Vader will emerge

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Welcome to my corner of the Empire. Here you find my struggle to give up the Dark Side and finally Retire from force choking coworkers. Got to say I will miss that some day